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Mr. R.I.N.G.
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« on: October 08, 2005, 02:59:32 PM »

Fun stuff - Chinese folk tales! This is the intro, but there are plenty of tales on the site:

http://home.arcor.de/marcmarti/yugur/folktale/folktale.htm
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     Western Yugur literature is transmitted orally. Usually, traditional narrative literature is divided into folktales, which are fictitious; legends, which deal with historical events or supernatural experiences and are told as being true, and myths, which deal with the creation of the world and the establishment of civilisation, and concern the sacred. The historical tales and religious texts are dealt with separately in the sections on the history and religion of the Yugur. Tales from daily life are presented in the section on the Yugur people. Other genres of literature can be found in separate sections: songs, proverbs, and riddles.

      The tales below have been collected by Yugurologists; they represent the first, and so far the only, written testimonies of the Western Yugur language. The style of these tales, which were written down from the mouth of the storytellers, is vivid and direct. The translations here keep as close to the original Western Yugur texts as possible, with a minimum of editing. From the 1980s onwards, Chinese translations of Yugur tales have been published, but some of these have been heavily edited, adding elaborate descriptive passages and moralisations.

      In order to facilitate their research as to their structure and distribution, folktales are classified into types and indexed following the classical work The Types of the Folk-tale by Aarne and Thompson, the so called AT index. This work deals mainly with European folktales. Indices of non-European tales often present different or additional types and subtypes which have been assigned a preliminary type number only. Therefore, these indices may differ among each other in their attribution of a type number. Some researchers of folktales consider the traditional AT-index not suitable for classifying non-European tales at all and offer independent indices. Thus Ting's classification of Chinese folktales essentially follows the traditional AT index; L?rincz' classification of Mongol folktales presents both an independent index as well as an AT index, and the classification of Chinese tales by Eberhard, and of Turkish folktales by Eberhard and Boratav follow yet other independent systems.

      According to their protagonists, themes, and structure, folktales can be subdivided in animal tales, ogre tales, tales of magic, and romantic, comical, and religious tales.

      Animal tales are folktales in which personified animals are the protagonists. The theme of most animal tales is the struggle for existence, often boiling down to the quest for food, of eating or being eaten. Usually a small and weak, but smart, animal overcomes a big and strong, but stupid, predator by tricks and pranks. In Western Yugur animal tales, the trickster is often a hare, and the predator a wolf, sometimes with the fox as his stooge. The Western Yugur folktale of The Friendship of the Wolf, the Fox, and the Raven is less concerned with trickster pranks; the theme of friendship between animals may be of Buddhist origin. The Western Yugur literature attested so far features no etiological animal tales (tales explaining the origin of animals or animal behaviour), while Eastern Yugur literature features a number of etiological animal tales that also occur in several other Mongolic languages.

      Tales of ogres and ogresses are folktales in which a man-eating monster threatens to eat people, especially little children. In Western Yugur folktales, the man-eater is usually an ogress, fond of sucking blood. She is called mangqys, a word of Mongolic origin. The mangqys may appear as a witch-like old woman or as a many-headed monster. In Salar tales, the ogress is called m?ngys-qarjakh, and in Uygur tales, she is called j?lm?ng?s.

      Tales of magic are folktales in which the protagonist sets out on a quest; after initial failure s/he succeeds in overcoming the encountered villain or other difficulties, usually with the help of a magical agent. Often the tale concludes with the marriage of the protagonist. An elaborate analysis of the structure of tales of magic was presented by Propp. The theme of many tales of magic is the process of maturation of the protagonist, the path s/he has to walk to find his or her happiness. In Western Yugur folktales, the hero or heroin is usually a poor person. As magical helper the white-haired old man can make his appearance.

      In romantic tales or novelles, the protagonist falls back on his or her own resourcefulness, rather than on a magical agent. Some tales in this category are reminiscent of Chinese literary works.

      In comical tales, cheats, liars, and fools comment on social conventions and the clerus by their naive or obscene pranks.

      Religious tales deal with supernatural events or teach religious morals and values. Some tales derive from the Kanjur, the canonical work of Lamaist Buddhism. Although the Yugur people were mostly illiterate, monks learned the Tibetan scriptures.

      It appears that the Western Yugur people share many folktales with the Mongol peoples, Tibetans, and Chinese.

      A further method of researching folktales is not by comparing tales in their entirity, but by comparing smaller elements (episodes or specific objects) called motifs. These motifs are indexed following the six-volume classical work Motif-Index of Folk-Literature. A Classification of Narrative Elements in Folktales, Ballads, Myths, Fables, Mediaeval Romances, Exempla, Fabliaux, Jest-Books and Local Legends by Thompson, or Motif Index. Specific motifs may occur embedded in different folktale types.
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2005, 03:02:43 PM »

Great stuuf and i is useful that they use the folklore motif system to categorise them (even if it is a bit if a squeeze).

http://home.arcor.de/marcmarti/yugur/biblio/indices/indAT.htm
http://home.arcor.de/marcmarti/yugur/biblio/indices/indmot.htm

The "vampire wife" one is great:

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Then his wife died. After she had died, three days passed, and their father mounted his horse, holding the boy in front and putting the girl on the back, and went to a person's house.
      Then they went and along the way, a woman had come from there, carrying a dead horse, and holding in her mouth a dead person at his crotch. As she suddenly saw this man, she gathered the dead horse and the dead person together, shook her body and said to the man: "Let me be your wife!"
      "If you want to be mine, be so!" the man said.
      Then the girl said thus: "Our mother said 'don't take another wife!' " she said.


http://home.arcor.de/marcmarti/yugur/folktale/tale16a.htm

My ifrst reaction might be - steady there Dad she seems like a massive weirdo. Wink

It does make one wonder why people got on their high horse about video nasties - we've always been telling gory tales (I'd have understodd if people had campaigned because some of the films were poo).

This one is great too - its virtually a shaggy dog story and made me laugh:

http://home.arcor.de/marcmarti/yugur/folktale/tale03b.htm
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2005, 04:06:41 PM »

As a comment, if the lady was carrying a dead horse, and holding a body in her teeth, then I think its safe to assume that she was of robust build. Possibly to the extent of it making a refusal seem, perhaps, a little rash.

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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2005, 04:16:07 PM »

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As a comment, if the lady was carrying a dead horse, and holding a body in her teeth, then I think its safe to assume that she was of robust build. Possibly to the extent of it making a refusal seem, perhaps, a little rash.

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To Hell with your robust build - all that dead body nonsese would mae her at least a 50 pinter. i.e. beer goggles don't cut it.
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if I went 'round saying I was an Emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

Madness, death, sexuality, crime: these are the things that attract my attention most. Michel Foucault  ("a thrill seeking philosopher in search of a moment of cathartic irrationality")
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